I'd love it if fervently religious folks decided to try to be "the soul and conscience of the Democratic Party," for example by insisting that the party stand foursquare against torture, or, as Mara Vanderslice suggests, that we need to be fervent rather than lukewarm in insisting on economic justice. And of course if you want to appeal to fervently religious folks, casting them in a role they'd like to occupy is a good way to do it.This quote looks innocent at first glance, but it got Atrios' hackles up, and rightly so, IMHO:
I see no reason religious people are uniquely qualified to be against torture, or to convince those in the Democratic party to stand against it. It's, again, assuming that religious people have strong sense of morality that magically matches Kleiman's, and/or that they have a higher level of moral authority to persuade others.This point goes to the heart of something that I've long believed. Just because someone believes in God in no way makes them inherently more moral (or soulful) than those who don't. Just to make it clear, let's just stipulate that the vast majority of the non-religious believe in some form of the Golden Rule/Inverse Golden Rule as their fundamental moral principle. The Golden Rule is more interventionist, the Inverse more libertarian, but both are basically designed around the reciprocal nature of existence, the idea that other people at heart are essentially like us in just about all moral and ethical qualities. We'll further stipulate that virtually no one decides on grand-scale hedonism as their fundamental moral code, even though a bunch of wacky religious types always seem to assume that this is the case. I'll note just to be insulting that Ken Lay, Jeffrey Skilling, Andy Fastow, and the rest of the Enron gang were all churchgoers, as are any number of indicted Congresscritters (cough, Tom DeLay, cough).
I'd love it if religious people all over the country suddenly embraced my policy agenda and persuaded others to do so. But it's absurd and patronizing to assume they will, and it's insulting to both them and me to suggest that they'll arrive there through some deeper sense of morality.
The heart and soul of the Democratic party need not be the "religious left", it should be the whole frickin' party. How in the heck can anyone claim that politics should be divorced from a moral basis, anyway? What Kleinman wants to say, and Atrios would almost certainly agree with, is that Democrats should couch their arguments in terms of a persuasive moral vision ("moral" can, but need not, equal "religious"). We don't believe in Social Security just because it's successful, but also because it is the right thing to do for the elderly. We care about the environment not because endangered species are pretty/fuzzy/cute, but because we want to leave the planet a better place than when we first stepped foot upon it. We believe that something should be done for all the forgotten victims of Hurricane Katrina because it's the glaringly obvious thing to do, and we're not criminally incompetent wastes of phosphorus who honestly care more about Trent Lott's vacation house than the million internal refugees we now have in the country. Speaking in terms of right and wrong is something I think Democrats should do more often, but this has nothing to do with religion. If Obama wants to credit his church for shaping his moral philosophy, that's fine, since his moral vision is a really appealing one. If someone comes to a similar set of views and doesn't believe in some form of quasi-spiritual bearded superbeing, though, how does that not count in the same way? Forgive me for expressing an opinion that is somewhat unpopular in our national discourse, but I honestly think that the religious feelings of a scary number of people are driven not by a sense of right and wrong, since that would require more thought and less rote repetition, but rather as a cheap and effortless way to feel morally superior to their fellows, even though they haven't put in the time and effort to really think about how their actions, great and small, fit into a larger moral framework. Still, for the majority who find a grounding for their moral beliefs in Biblical teachings, and then turn those beliefs for good, more power to them.
To close, I think I'll have to turn over the floor to kos, who nailed it today, in the context of the winning campaigns of Democratic Senators Jon Tester of Montana and James Webb of Virginia:
Democrats and liberals have been too willing in the past to make their electoral appeals based on the intellect -- offering a laundry list of 10-point plans and programs they will create and/or support. We're trying to appeal to the brain, while Republicans have learned to appeal to the heart.That is the way to make sure people understand that the heart and soul of the Democratic party includes everyone, both people and politicians, religious and secular alike. V'imru, Amen.
So we bore and confuse voters, giving them little sense in what makes our candidates tick. They are busy. They have two jobs, kids to shuffle between soccer practice and camp, myriad problems to deal with. Political blog readers may be obsessed with politics, but it's mostly a hobby. Most people have other hobbies. Politics is background noise. They don't want to deal with the details or learn about the issues. That's why we have a representative democracy -- so we can elect people to worry about the details.
What voters want is a sense of what makes a candidate tick. When confronted with a decision, what values will the official draw upon to inform his or her decision.
And while many people -- thanks to the good branding work of the Religious Right -- think that "values" equals "religion", fact is that values can come from any number of places.
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And where do those values come from? If a candidate sincerely gets his or her values from religion, then that's fine. The Bible is a wonderfully liberal text. And when it's sincere it doesn't come across so grating, so imposing. Compare Obama's talking about religion to Bush's "favorite philosopher" b.s.
But religious values are no more superior than the values I learned from my abuelita (and most Latinos will get a good sense of what my value system looks like just by referencing the word "abuelita"). They are no more superior than the values Tester learned on the farm from his farmer father and grandfather. Or the values that Webb learned while proudly wearing his uniform. Or the values someone might learn by contemplating the great philosophers. Or whatever.
Values are important, and Democrats must be comfortable talking about them. Voters will respond to those better than any laundry list of issues.
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oh man, my brain is too full of crap right now to address this like it deserves. Maybe this weekend I'll come back to it..
I agree, but I think the antagonist's comment could be rephrased a little more directly:
People who claim to have moral values and then support the Republican party are hypocrites. Or just stupid. (Or, OK Josh, busy taking their kids to soccer practice or whatever.)
Funny to see Mara Vanderslice's name pop up. I remember her from my DC antiglobalization activist days.
Actually, Megan, I have to agree with you rather strongly. If there has been a dominant thread to Republican governance, as opposed to their rhetoric, it has nothing to do with serving the poor or any form of moral reform (look at all the indicted politicians for evidence of the latter). Rather, it has been a scarily strong nationalistic streak, through which just about all other arguments are couched. THe problem is, nationalism is not a religious value in the slightest. Short of declaring the war in Iraq to be a holy war (if only there was a local term for that...), then it has no religious component, yet you have religious Christians attacking peace activists for being unpatriotic, as if Jesus was more concerned with America than an end to war. Needless to say, I don't think you find much evidence of that in the Gospels.
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